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Found a good resource for Southern California Blackjack conditions. Doesn't mention pen, but gives a great breakdown of rules and odds. http://www.BlackjackClassroom.com Check the 'Casino Info' section. It looks accurate judging from the places where I play in San Diego. WestCoast21 , Jan 21, 2010 #1blackjack101 Active Member
SWEEETTTT!!! Good thing I looked past the first page, and good thing you posted this up, exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!!...Know of anywhere I could read up on how to get comps, act like a 'gambler' and fly under the radar? It's cool if not, thanks for this info anyways. blackjack101 , Jan 11, 2011 #2onemorehand Active Member
Comps Don't chase comps! You won't get much in the way of comps in SoCal (but do ask). The Spa and Aqua Caliente Casinos in Palm Springs have good offers as long as you visit there once every month or so. Both have good rules on DD. If you are looking DD in San Diego go to Harrahs Rincon or Barona. onemorehand , Jan 18, 2011 #3blackjack101 Active Member
I see..is there a particular reason why SoCal = minimal comps? blackjack101 , Jan 18, 2011 #4onemorehand Active Member
Comps Business for most of the SoCal casinos stayed steady and are rebounding. When things were down some there were better offers. You have to play black, or 2 greens for longer periods, to get their attention. Buffets are not that hard to get and they are OK. Nicer restaurant comps require higher/longer play. Harrahs doesn't do much for BJ players unless your 2 black or better per hand, Barona is a little better. Valley View gives you a free buffet (it is pretty good) when you join the players club. Try this link: http://www.thegamingguide.com/ onemorehand , Jan 18, 2011 #5irobinson Well-Known Member
Those guys at Agua Caliente are in the process of going over to H17. Punks. irobinson , Feb 2, 2011 #6onemorehand Active Member
Aqua Are they changing in the HL rooms (Spa and Aqua) also? I will be there next week and will definately cut down on my play is they are. onemorehand , Feb 6, 2011 #7irobinson Well-Known Member
Sorry, I didn't see this. According to the floor they were keeping HL S17. irobinson , Feb 13, 2011 #8onemorehand Active Member
They are I played at Aqua the other day and HL is keeping the S17 but everything else is H17. onemorehand , Feb 19, 2011 #9blackjack101 Active Member
onemorehand said: ↑ I played at Aqua the other day and HL is keeping the S17 but everything else is H17.Click to expand.. Do you know when the change will be made? blackjack101 , Feb 24, 2011 #10onemorehand Active Member
It has been done The BJ on the floor has changed to H17. HL room may change, but if they do, it will cost them about 20% of their players. Aqua should give their HL players reason to play at Spa while they remodel the Primrose Room. I think it is a dump compared to other HL rooms I play. onemorehand , Feb 25, 2011 #11tedsuxs Well-Known Member
Anyone been to PalmSprings area casinos recently, the ones near agua calienta ect. Plz post update tedsuxs , Mar 2, 2011 #12irobinson Well-Known Member
The changes above a recent, nothing else has really changed. Fantasy Springs is S17 on shoe games. DD sucks at both Hot Water and Fantasy Springs. Spotlight 29 has a small 00 tournament on Wednesdays and Fridays and includes buffet in the buy-in. irobinson , Mar 3, 2011 #13
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- James said, on March 15, 2012 at 12:44 am
I am sorry to hear that you got barred from table games at your local casino. You play 60 hrs/week ? Means you are a full time AP ?
Reply- stephenhow said, on March 15, 2012 at 6:44 am
Nope, I just played for fun. Playing face-up Mississippi stud for Antes might net you +/hr on average when the table is full. Playing bigger isn’t too attractive, because of the variance. (See the outcome distribution for 5000 hands .)
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- stephenhow said, on March 15, 2012 at 6:44 am
- Profbac said, on March 15, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Maybe it is time for you to take up live poker. I understand the Barona Casino has a nice poker room. The casino won’t throw you out for being a good player. Personally, I think you would be a natural at any type of limit game. No limit gets expensive, and bluffing may or may not be your thing.
I was barred for card counting at blackjack, and recently at baccarat. Now I pLay some UTH and THB for fun and comps, then back to something more serious. I have found the bankroll fluctuations more manageable, and the ROI better.
Take it from someone who has been there. They did you a favor. 60 hours a week is a lot of time to devote to anything that only pays you per hour.
Reply- stephenhow said, on March 16, 2012 at 6:47 am
Wow, you got barred from baccarat?! I assume you were counting the Dragon. So management thought it was dangerous? What did the other players think?
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- stephenhow said, on March 16, 2012 at 6:47 am
- Wacky said, on March 16, 2012 at 3:19 pm
You got barred from playing all table games? Or just the ones you have identified as having a player advantage under the correct conditions?
Reply- stephenhow said, on March 16, 2012 at 4:34 pm
They barred me from all table games. I was surprised at first, but I guess it’s easier to bar me from all games, rather than figure out which ones are +EV. Plus, they probably had enough of me already, counting the baccarat Dragon when the Mississippi Stud game was short.
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- stephenhow said, on March 16, 2012 at 4:34 pm
- Profbac said, on March 17, 2012 at 9:44 am
re:Card counting baccarat: 1. In Connecticut and New Jersey all burn cards are dealt face up. Most casinos were putting the cut card 14 from the back and dealing at least one hand through the cut card.
Under these conditions, the dragon 7 bet can be beaten during the last half deck. The tie bet can be beaten during the last 2 or 3 hands, depending on the count, and I will tell you that some peopkle have figured out how to play the bank and player at a positive EV during the last half deck.
Today most of these casinos are only playing out 6 to 7 decks out of 8. Harrahs in Atlantic City deals out all the cards ie cut card is 14 cards fro the end, however the sign says Maximum bet on the dragon bet is . Also note that any game dealing all the cards is playing Maccau style, and you need to devote 2.5 plu hours per shoe. Seriously limits any earning potential.
In Atlantic City they can’t tell you to leave, but they can limit your bet size.
Reply - Konstantin said, on March 19, 2012 at 10:02 am
I don’t think you can actually get +EV counting the dragon unless you are wonging, which the casino would certainly frown upon. Also, I seriously doubt it’s possible to get a profitable advantage counting player/banker/tie, http://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/appendix/2/ makes a very good case for this.
Reply- Profbac said, on March 19, 2012 at 12:34 pm
If you really played baccarat you would know that wonging isn’t necessary. The casinos do not pressure you to play every hand. A team of 6 people can sit while one person bets and the others are studying their score cards. If you get a group to reserve a table, and they are playing purple and orange chips, the casino isn’t likely to rush those players.Also the range of min to max bets is very large. Also to accomodate a large player, the casino will often shuffle near the end if it is requested. Also, most casinos will allow a large player free hands if he is sitting by himself.
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- Profbac said, on March 19, 2012 at 12:34 pm
- Grumpy said, on May 17, 2012 at 9:02 am
What happened to Mike Patterson? He used to care about the customers. Now he waddles around the casino acting like he is so important. He does not return phone calls or answer his e mails. Mike, less time at the buffet, more time talking to the patrons!
Reply - Jeff said, on September 10, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Sorry to hear that Steve, it was a blast playing with you at Barona, I guess I now know why I have not seen you there in a while.
Reply - Jonathan said, on January 4, 2013 at 10:44 am
Hi,
Just wondering if it is +ev to play this game when the full house pays 8:1 and the straight pays 4:1. This would be an electronic table so even a tiny edge is potentially worth it. Can you run your sims to get the return for this pay table?
Reply- stephenhow said, on January 4, 2013 at 11:05 am
It’s possible it’s still +EV with those payouts. I’ve seen those electronic tables, and have written about the “virtual single deck” technique they sometimes use for each player position. Do they use a single community board, or does every player position have their own board? If there is one common board, then it might be beatable. How many player positions are there?
Reply- Jonathan said, on January 7, 2013 at 3:20 am
there are 6 spots, and they use a single community board (99% sure on this, will double check next time I’m there)
- Jonathan said, on January 7, 2013 at 3:20 am
- stephenhow said, on January 4, 2013 at 11:05 am
- Jonathan said, on January 16, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Sadly, there are only 5 spots in the electronic game I mentioned above. Texas holdem poker empty tables. It is the same maker as the “virtual single deck” technique, though the machines say nothing about that. The blackjack ones do specifically talk about each player having his own deck.
anyway, the next best option I’ve seen for mississippi stud is a 6 handed game dealt face down, which I doubt can be very +ev with a simple chip signaling/quiet whisper collusion system? (I doubt this casino would allow a full blown “what do you have” discussion), and it also pays 4:1 for the straight.
back to the drawing board for a decent +ev spot I guess
Reply - Tyrese Le said, on November 27, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Is Profbac still alive?
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Found a good resource for Southern California Blackjack conditions. Doesn't mention pen, but gives a great breakdown of rules and odds. http://www.BlackjackClassroom.com Check the 'Casino Info' section. It looks accurate judging from the places where I play in San Diego. WestCoast21 , Jan 21, 2010 #1blackjack101 Active Member
SWEEETTTT!!! Good thing I looked past the first page, and good thing you posted this up, exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!!...Know of anywhere I could read up on how to get comps, act like a 'gambler' and fly under the radar? It's cool if not, thanks for this info anyways. blackjack101 , Jan 11, 2011 #2onemorehand Active Member
Comps Don't chase comps! You won't get much in the way of comps in SoCal (but do ask). The Spa and Aqua Caliente Casinos in Palm Springs have good offers as long as you visit there once every month or so. Both have good rules on DD. If you are looking DD in San Diego go to Harrahs Rincon or Barona. onemorehand , Jan 18, 2011 #3blackjack101 Active Member
I see..is there a particular reason why SoCal = minimal comps? blackjack101 , Jan 18, 2011 #4onemorehand Active Member
Comps Business for most of the SoCal casinos stayed steady and are rebounding. When things were down some there were better offers. You have to play black, or 2 greens for longer periods, to get their attention. Buffets are not that hard to get and they are OK. Nicer restaurant comps require higher/longer play. Harrahs doesn't do much for BJ players unless your 2 black or better per hand, Barona is a little better. Valley View gives you a free buffet (it is pretty good) when you join the players club. Try this link: http://www.thegamingguide.com/ onemorehand , Jan 18, 2011 #5irobinson Well-Known Member
Those guys at Agua Caliente are in the process of going over to H17. Punks. irobinson , Feb 2, 2011 #6onemorehand Active Member
Aqua Are they changing in the HL rooms (Spa and Aqua) also? I will be there next week and will definately cut down on my play is they are. onemorehand , Feb 6, 2011 #7irobinson Well-Known Member
Sorry, I didn't see this. According to the floor they were keeping HL S17. irobinson , Feb 13, 2011 #8onemorehand Active Member
They are I played at Aqua the other day and HL is keeping the S17 but everything else is H17. onemorehand , Feb 19, 2011 #9blackjack101 Active Member
onemorehand said: ↑ I played at Aqua the other day and HL is keeping the S17 but everything else is H17.Click to expand.. Do you know when the change will be made? blackjack101 , Feb 24, 2011 #10onemorehand Active Member
It has been done The BJ on the floor has changed to H17. HL room may change, but if they do, it will cost them about 20% of their players. Aqua should give their HL players reason to play at Spa while they remodel the Primrose Room. I think it is a dump compared to other HL rooms I play. onemorehand , Feb 25, 2011 #11tedsuxs Well-Known Member
Anyone been to PalmSprings area casinos recently, the ones near agua calienta ect. Plz post update tedsuxs , Mar 2, 2011 #12irobinson Well-Known Member
The changes above a recent, nothing else has really changed. Fantasy Springs is S17 on shoe games. DD sucks at both Hot Water and Fantasy Springs. Spotlight 29 has a small 00 tournament on Wednesdays and Fridays and includes buffet in the buy-in. irobinson , Mar 3, 2011 #13
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- James said, on March 15, 2012 at 12:44 am
I am sorry to hear that you got barred from table games at your local casino. You play 60 hrs/week ? Means you are a full time AP ?
Reply- stephenhow said, on March 15, 2012 at 6:44 am
Nope, I just played for fun. Playing face-up Mississippi stud for Antes might net you +/hr on average when the table is full. Playing bigger isn’t too attractive, because of the variance. (See the outcome distribution for 5000 hands .)
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- stephenhow said, on March 15, 2012 at 6:44 am
- Profbac said, on March 15, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Maybe it is time for you to take up live poker. I understand the Barona Casino has a nice poker room. The casino won’t throw you out for being a good player. Download texas holdem poker offline for android. Personally, I think you would be a natural at any type of limit game. No limit gets expensive, and bluffing may or may not be your thing.
I was barred for card counting at blackjack, and recently at baccarat. Now I pLay some UTH and THB for fun and comps, then back to something more serious. I have found the bankroll fluctuations more manageable, and the ROI better.
Take it from someone who has been there. They did you a favor. 60 hours a week is a lot of time to devote to anything that only pays you per hour.
Reply- stephenhow said, on March 16, 2012 at 6:47 am
Wow, you got barred from baccarat?! I assume you were counting the Dragon. So management thought it was dangerous? What did the other players think?
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- stephenhow said, on March 16, 2012 at 6:47 am
- Wacky said, on March 16, 2012 at 3:19 pm
You got barred from playing all table games? Or just the ones you have identified as having a player advantage under the correct conditions?
Reply- stephenhow said, on March 16, 2012 at 4:34 pm
They barred me from all table games. I was surprised at first, but I guess it’s easier to bar me from all games, rather than figure out which ones are +EV. Plus, they probably had enough of me already, counting the baccarat Dragon when the Mississippi Stud game was short.
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- stephenhow said, on March 16, 2012 at 4:34 pm
- Profbac said, on March 17, 2012 at 9:44 am
re:Card counting baccarat: 1. In Connecticut and New Jersey all burn cards are dealt face up. Most casinos were putting the cut card 14 from the back and dealing at least one hand through the cut card.
Under these conditions, the dragon 7 bet can be beaten during the last half deck. The tie bet can be beaten during the last 2 or 3 hands, depending on the count, and I will tell you that some peopkle have figured out how to play the bank and player at a positive EV during the last half deck.
Today most of these casinos are only playing out 6 to 7 decks out of 8. Harrahs in Atlantic City deals out all the cards ie cut card is 14 cards fro the end, however the sign says Maximum bet on the dragon bet is . Also note that any game dealing all the cards is playing Maccau style, and you need to devote 2.5 plu hours per shoe. Seriously limits any earning potential.
In Atlantic City they can’t tell you to leave, but they can limit your bet size.
Reply - Konstantin said, on March 19, 2012 at 10:02 am
I don’t think you can actually get +EV counting the dragon unless you are wonging, which the casino would certainly frown upon. Also, I seriously doubt it’s possible to get a profitable advantage counting player/banker/tie, http://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/appendix/2/ makes a very good case for this.
Reply- Profbac said, on March 19, 2012 at 12:34 pm
If you really played baccarat you would know that wonging isn’t necessary. The casinos do not pressure you to play every hand. A team of 6 people can sit while one person bets and the others are studying their score cards. If you get a group to reserve a table, and they are playing purple and orange chips, the casino isn’t likely to rush those players.Also the range of min to max bets is very large. Also to accomodate a large player, the casino will often shuffle near the end if it is requested. Also, most casinos will allow a large player free hands if he is sitting by himself.
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- Profbac said, on March 19, 2012 at 12:34 pm
- Grumpy said, on May 17, 2012 at 9:02 am
What happened to Mike Patterson? He used to care about the customers. Now he waddles around the casino acting like he is so important. He does not return phone calls or answer his e mails. Mike, less time at the buffet, more time talking to the patrons!
Reply - Jeff said, on September 10, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Sorry to hear that Steve, it was a blast playing with you at Barona, I guess I now know why I have not seen you there in a while.
Reply - Jonathan said, on January 4, 2013 at 10:44 am
Hi,
Just wondering if it is +ev to play this game when the full house pays 8:1 and the straight pays 4:1. This would be an electronic table so even a tiny edge is potentially worth it. Can you run your sims to get the return for this pay table?
Reply- stephenhow said, on January 4, 2013 at 11:05 am
It’s possible it’s still +EV with those payouts. I’ve seen those electronic tables, and have written about the “virtual single deck” technique they sometimes use for each player position. Do they use a single community board, or does every player position have their own board? If there is one common board, then it might be beatable. How many player positions are there?
Reply- Jonathan said, on January 7, 2013 at 3:20 am
there are 6 spots, and they use a single community board (99% sure on this, will double check next time I’m there)
- Jonathan said, on January 7, 2013 at 3:20 am
- stephenhow said, on January 4, 2013 at 11:05 am
- Jonathan said, on January 16, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Sadly, there are only 5 spots in the electronic game I mentioned above. It is the same maker as the “virtual single deck” technique, though the machines say nothing about that. The blackjack ones do specifically talk about each player having his own deck.
anyway, the next best option I’ve seen for mississippi stud is a 6 handed game dealt face down, which I doubt can be very +ev with a simple chip signaling/quiet whisper collusion system? (I doubt this casino would allow a full blown “what do you have” discussion), and it also pays 4:1 for the straight.
back to the drawing board for a decent +ev spot I guess
Reply - Tyrese Le said, on November 27, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Is Profbac still alive?
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6-Deck Blackjack
Most 6-deck Blackjack games at Viejas Casino offer standard 3 to 2 payouts for Blackjack. The dealer is supposed to hit soft 17 and doubling down after a split is available, but you can’t re-split aces or surrender. The house edge for this version is 0.63%. The table limits are and ,000.
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This casino also offers another version where the Blackjack payout isn’t the standard 3 to 2, but 6 to 5. The rest of the rules are pretty much the same, the dealer hits soft 17 and doubling down after splitting is permitted. The maximum wager for this version is 0. The house edge is increased significantly due to the lower payout and it is between 1.97% and 1.99% depending whether a CSM is employed on the table in question or not.
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Double-Deck Blackjack with 6 to 5 Payout
Be careful if you sit at the double-deck table which offers a 6 to 5 payout for a Blackjack as that alone increases the house edge to 1.78%. The rest of the rules are the same and so are the table limits.
Single-Deck Blackjack
Viejas offers one table where you can play single-deck Blackjack. The rules are just the same and the Blackjack payout is standard, 3 to 2. The dealer hits soft 17, you can’t surrender or re-split aces, but you can double any two cards and double after a split. The minimum bet is , whereas the maximum amount that you can bet is set at ,000. This game features a very competitive house edge at 0.18%.
Buster Blackjack
Buster Blackjack is a side-bet that you can place at the tables in Viejas. It is a bet that the dealer will go bust and the payouts are based on the number of cards. So, if the deal busts with 3 or 4 cards, the payout is only 2 to 1, but if they go bust with 5 cards, it reaches 4 to 1, whereas with 6 cards it is 15 to 1. If the dealer deals themselves a seventh card and yet goes bust, you will receive an amount worth 50 times your bet, whereas the highly improbable bust with 8 or more cards will result in a 250 to 1 payout.